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When you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit. Idiot Harry Reid maintains that paying income tax is voluntary in the U.S.. Harry Reid is the Majority Leader in the U.S. Senate. He's obviously not very bright. But then again... he is a politician. Interviewer Jan Helfeld does a great job of trying to nail him down but... well, you'll see. See more bottom Line Interviews by Jan Helfeld at janhelfeld.com

Channel: News & Politics
Uploaded: December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm
Author: AlliDrac

Length: 04:31
Rating: 4.807428
Views: 1950810

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asicit2b (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Retsquid, If p ~p, then ~p
RetSquid (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
@asicit2b You spelled "Truth" wrong. :)
RetSquid (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
@FreeinTX "tax court is NOT!" [legal]The Tax Court is known as an “Article I court” and not an “Article III court” because it was created by Congressional legislation outside of the rules that normally govern federal courts under Article III of the Constitution.Both are equally 'legal'.
RetSquid (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
@FreeinTX "NOTHING to do with Constitutionality or the strength of a lower courts decision."But until SCOTUS says different the lower court decision is Constitutional.
RetSquid (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
@FreeinTX You must have the wrong case. Try: Tornichio v. United States, 1998 WL 381304 (N.D.Ohio)"Plaintiff filed a 1994 federal income tax return indicating his employer had withheld a portion of his WAGES for the payment of his federal income taxes."
RetSquid (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
@FreeinTX LOL!! What part of "plaintiff’ wages AND gambling earnings" did you not understand?
RetSquid (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
@FreeinTX That does not change the meaning of what the court said.
RetSquid (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
@FreeinTX "The word “voluntary,” as used in Flora and in IRS publications,refers to our system of allowing taxpayers to determine the correct amount oftax and complete the appropriate returns, rather than have the governmentdetermine tax for them. The requirement to file an income tax return is notvoluntary and is clearly set forth in Internal Revenue Code §§ 6011(a),6012(a), et seq., and 6072(a). See also Treas. Reg. § 1.6011-1(a).
RetSquid (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
@FreeinTX The Fed has annual audits. Nearly all of the interest they charge is given to the Treasury.You can look these things up you know.
RetSquid (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
@FreeinTX“It is true that the power of Congress to tax is a very extensive power. It is given in the Constitution with only one exception and only two qualifications. Congress cannot tax exports, and it must impose direct taxes by the rule of apportionment and indirect taxes by the rule of uniformity. Thus, limited, and thus only, it reaches every subject, and may be exercised at discretion.” License Tax Cases, 72 U.S. 462, 471 (1866).

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